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The outbreak of spring causes an impromptu show. When Greg is in a hoppy mood there is little time to spare and we break out Single, Double, and Triple IPA's.
Haven't even had a chance to listen to the whole show, but felt I needed to defend myself for your Pre-Show!
I honestly dont remember laying it on that thick about the Hop Harvest... But it does not shock me! So, your probably correct on your quote. As for you guys not pimping a bad beer... Did we forget Heineken Light? (Or whatever its called!) Buy another bottle and see if it gets as good of a review as you gave it when it showed up in the killer metal shipping container!
Thanks for mentioning my interview with Dave Engbers of Founders... Yeah, it was decent. Our show is general silliness, but when it comes to great beer, or the brewers... We know when to play it straight. I had a good time talking to Dave, and it was cool that he loosened up towards the end... He could have almost made a good co-host! You should have heard the unrecorded conversation after that interview! He's a great guy! I'm glad you liked it, it means a lot coming from the "pros". (Seriously, I appreciate it)
OK, now I need to listen to the show!
Groucho
The Beer Report with Groucho and CHUD... http://www.thebeerreport.com
Also check out http://www.beersafari.com, home to great beercasts.
I really wanted to hate Heineken premium light. I really did. Look at it.
A light beer made by a shitty mega brewery who pretends their stuff is premium/trendy beer.
A Marketing company sending a beer to a show that they have most likely never have listened to, let alone the brewer of the beer.
What was there that could have incented, or guilted us into giving that beer false praise? If anything I wanted to trash it for their misguided attempt to promote it on a craft beer show.
But to both of our surprises the beer was not bad. Almost as good as Sam Adams Light if I remember correctly. And we were very clear. that it will be hard not to find an un-skunked HPL unless you can find it in bomb proof metal containers like we did.
We to the best of our ability judge the beer on flavor, we try not to let the label effect our comments, and certainly not the person who purchased it.
Y'know... In all fairness... I have not tried that Heinekin. Wonder if I can get it in a "pick-a-six" deal at the local brew shop? I'm sure as Hell not going to buy a 6er of it!
I'd also like to point out that we pitted it against other lightly flavored beers, which is the reason it was successful. It and Sam Adams were the only ones that actually had some flavor instead of a generalized watery pallette. Heineken Premium Light would not fare well against our usual lineup on a typical show. But in the right context, it actually surprised us that you could taste the damn thing.
Like Jeff said, we wanted to hate it. Nothing would have pleased us more than to crap all over it. But, damn it to hell, we couldn't.
But yeah, we made plenty of noise about how, if you're going to get it in a bottle, it's likely going to be skunked, so be really really careful. And frankly, only drink it if you MUST drink light beer and there's no Sam Adams light available.
I was surprised while listening to your show today to hear you saw my post on beer advocate. I mentioned your names with nothing but sheer affection and admiration.
The name does annoy me just a bit though
Look at the definition:
Geek Slang.
–Noun 1. A peculiar or otherwise dislikable person, esp. one who is perceived to be overly intellectual.
2. A computer expert or enthusiast (a term of pride as self-reference, but often considered offensive when used by outsiders.)
3. A carnival performer who performs sensationally morbid or disgusting acts, as biting off the head of a live chicken.
Number 2 was my little dig at you guys but kindhearted dig at that.
Next week in Rochester we are getting Ruination in six packs - Greg would love that!
Ye shall know the Bastard, and the Bastard shall set you free
Well...your show pursuaded me. I have been debating on which Pilsner I was going to purchase this month for the start of the baseball season. I was debating between Victory Prima, Stoudt's Pils, and Troegs Sunshine. After listening to your show I decided to go with the Sly Fox.
Wow, what a terrific Pilsner. The case I purchased didn't seem to have the over-carbonation problems you were having and was crystal clear. It felt so odd leaving a beer distributor that has a selection of over 800 beers with a case of cans but they are so convenient I will now be seeking out Sly Fox and Oskar Blues.
On another note, why does it seem that Pennsylvania has the best Pilsners in the country (world?).
I've been a beer enthusiast for a few years now. Last week, I went out and bought a bunch of hoppy brews and some big beers (a barleywine, a IIPA etc...). After making that purchase, I was thinking to myself how I'd really like to try some lagers/pilsners.....a style which I mostly abandoned a while back during my quest for quality craft brews. Then, I heard your podcast and you basically described my life-cycle as a beer enthusiast, and I'm sure many others, nearly perfectly.
I'm looking forward to diving back into these styles of beers that are largely ignored by craft beer lovers.
I think I perhaps misrepresented my comments on my Beer Advocate email which you read on air.
I am not even remotely suggesting you are going to change the top 100 on BA, and that is sort of besides the point.
But long story short Jeff's comparison about voting is sort of my point. It is strange to even discuss misgivings about beer advocate if the concept of contributing there is deemed useless.
I think I perhaps misrepresented my comments on my Beer Advocate email which you read on air.
I am not even remotely suggesting you are going to change the top 100 on BA, and that is sort of besides the point.
But long story short Jeff's comparison about voting is sort of my point. It is strange to even discuss misgivings about beer advocate if the concept of contributing there is deemed useless.
As for my issue with the jokes about spitting, you don't have to swallow wine to get the full flavor profile. You do need to drink beer, but making fun of wine tasting because you spit is much like calling hockey a worse spot than golf, because hockey players only use one stick during games.
As for the BA top 100, would you rather have a former lawyer scoring beers? If he gives Stone IRS a 93 it'll sell for $4.99, if he gives it a 96, it'll go for 8.99. Good luck finding KBS. Every store sold out after it received a 98+. I think it's awesome that we have a massive resource of unpretentious consumer reviews.
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Haven't even had a chance to listen to the whole show, but felt I needed to defend myself for your Pre-Show!
I honestly dont remember laying it on that thick about the Hop Harvest... But it does not shock me! So, your probably correct on your quote. As for you guys not pimping a bad beer... Did we forget Heineken Light? (Or whatever its called!) Buy another bottle and see if it gets as good of a review as you gave it when it showed up in the killer metal shipping container!
Thanks for mentioning my interview with Dave Engbers of Founders... Yeah, it was decent. Our show is general silliness, but when it comes to great beer, or the brewers... We know when to play it straight. I had a good time talking to Dave, and it was cool that he loosened up towards the end... He could have almost made a good co-host! You should have heard the unrecorded conversation after that interview! He's a great guy! I'm glad you liked it, it means a lot coming from the "pros". (Seriously, I appreciate it)
OK, now I need to listen to the show!
Groucho
The Beer Report with Groucho and CHUD... http://www.thebeerreport.com
Also check out http://www.beersafari.com, home to great beercasts.
Just because you want to hate a beer, does not mean you should.
I really wanted to hate Heineken premium light. I really did. Look at it.
What was there that could have incented, or guilted us into giving that beer false praise? If anything I wanted to trash it for their misguided attempt to promote it on a craft beer show.
But to both of our surprises the beer was not bad. Almost as good as Sam Adams Light if I remember correctly. And we were very clear. that it will be hard not to find an un-skunked HPL unless you can find it in bomb proof metal containers like we did.
We to the best of our ability judge the beer on flavor, we try not to let the label effect our comments, and certainly not the person who purchased it.
Calm down... I was having fun with this!
Y'know... In all fairness... I have not tried that Heinekin. Wonder if I can get it in a "pick-a-six" deal at the local brew shop? I'm sure as Hell not going to buy a 6er of it!
G
Heiny in the spotlight
I'd also like to point out that we pitted it against other lightly flavored beers, which is the reason it was successful. It and Sam Adams were the only ones that actually had some flavor instead of a generalized watery pallette. Heineken Premium Light would not fare well against our usual lineup on a typical show. But in the right context, it actually surprised us that you could taste the damn thing.
Like Jeff said, we wanted to hate it. Nothing would have pleased us more than to crap all over it. But, damn it to hell, we couldn't.
But yeah, we made plenty of noise about how, if you're going to get it in a bottle, it's likely going to be skunked, so be really really careful. And frankly, only drink it if you MUST drink light beer and there's no Sam Adams light available.
Hate the term "Beer Geek"
I was surprised while listening to your show today to hear you saw my post on beer advocate. I mentioned your names with nothing but sheer affection and admiration.
The name does annoy me just a bit though
Look at the definition:
Geek Slang.
–Noun 1. A peculiar or otherwise dislikable person, esp. one who is perceived to be overly intellectual.
2. A computer expert or enthusiast (a term of pride as self-reference, but often considered offensive when used by outsiders.)
3. A carnival performer who performs sensationally morbid or disgusting acts, as biting off the head of a live chicken.
Number 2 was my little dig at you guys but kindhearted dig at that.
Next week in Rochester we are getting Ruination in six packs - Greg would love that!
Ye shall know the Bastard, and the Bastard shall set you free
main show missing from itunes
Both of the extra feeds made it on to itunes for show 73, but the main show is missing.
beer in cans is the best!
Well...your show pursuaded me. I have been debating on which Pilsner I was going to purchase this month for the start of the baseball season. I was debating between Victory Prima, Stoudt's Pils, and Troegs Sunshine. After listening to your show I decided to go with the Sly Fox.
Wow, what a terrific Pilsner. The case I purchased didn't seem to have the over-carbonation problems you were having and was crystal clear. It felt so odd leaving a beer distributor that has a selection of over 800 beers with a case of cans but they are so convenient I will now be seeking out Sly Fox and Oskar Blues.
On another note, why does it seem that Pennsylvania has the best Pilsners in the country (world?).
Cheers,
John
I've been a beer enthusiast
I've been a beer enthusiast for a few years now. Last week, I went out and bought a bunch of hoppy brews and some big beers (a barleywine, a IIPA etc...). After making that purchase, I was thinking to myself how I'd really like to try some lagers/pilsners.....a style which I mostly abandoned a while back during my quest for quality craft brews. Then, I heard your podcast and you basically described my life-cycle as a beer enthusiast, and I'm sure many others, nearly perfectly.
I'm looking forward to diving back into these styles of beers that are largely ignored by craft beer lovers.
Hey, finally had a chance to listen to this show...
I think I perhaps misrepresented my comments on my Beer Advocate email which you read on air.
I am not even remotely suggesting you are going to change the top 100 on BA, and that is sort of besides the point.
But long story short Jeff's comparison about voting is sort of my point. It is strange to even discuss misgivings about beer advocate if the concept of contributing there is deemed useless.
Hey, finally had a chance to listen to this show...
I think I perhaps misrepresented my comments on my Beer Advocate email which you read on air.
I am not even remotely suggesting you are going to change the top 100 on BA, and that is sort of besides the point.
But long story short Jeff's comparison about voting is sort of my point. It is strange to even discuss misgivings about beer advocate if the concept of contributing there is deemed useless.
Speaking of taking points the wrong way...
As for my issue with the jokes about spitting, you don't have to swallow wine to get the full flavor profile. You do need to drink beer, but making fun of wine tasting because you spit is much like calling hockey a worse spot than golf, because hockey players only use one stick during games.
As for the BA top 100, would you rather have a former lawyer scoring beers? If he gives Stone IRS a 93 it'll sell for $4.99, if he gives it a 96, it'll go for 8.99. Good luck finding KBS. Every store sold out after it received a 98+. I think it's awesome that we have a massive resource of unpretentious consumer reviews.