CBR 108: Southern Charm
Fri, 2008-03-21 19:20 — jbearer
- Artist: Craft Beer Radio
- Title: CBR 108: Southern Charm
- Album: Craft Beer Radio
- Track: 108
- Year: 2008
- Length: 52:10 minutes (17.91 MB)
- Format: MP3 Mono 44kHz 48Kbps (CBR)
We taste some IPA's this week including 2 delicious ones from down south. You would never know there was a hop shortage going on during this show. We also re-visited the Lazy Magnolia from Mississippi.
Beer:
- St. Arnold - Elissa IPA (TX)
- Abita - Jockamo IPA (LA)
- Alesmith - Yulesmith Holiday Ale (CA)
- Smuttynose - Big A IPA (NH)
- Ballast Point - Dorado IPA (CA)
Rankings:
- Jeff 1. St. Arnold, 2. Lazy Magnolia, 3. Ballast Point, 4. Abita, 5. Alesmith, 6. Smuttynose
- Greg 1. Ballast Point, 2. Abita, 3. Lazy Magnolia, 4. Alesmith, 5. St. Arnold, 6. Smuttynose
Extras
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Comments
Yulesmith
There are actually two versions of Yulesmith - a summer and a winter
By reading the label comments, I realized that you were drinking the summer version, which is now around 9 months old. Clearly, the brew has lost some of the hop freshness in the interim, but it is still a very nice San Diego style DIPA. The winter version, to my palate, has more complexity, and has some elements of a barleywine. Although we could never taste the two fresh versions side by side, it would be interesting to pair the winter 2007 with the summer 2008 version, when it is released. I think the contrast would be startling.
IPAs
Another fine show gentleman.
Greg converting on Stone??? Just kidding...but you never know. At the very least, I applaud Greg's willingness and open-mindedness about trying it repeatedly, not that I personally have a problem with him not liking it. There have been plenty of "stellar" brews that people rave about that I just don't get. Everyone's palate is different.
I enjoyed the show with an Avery IPA (my new fave IPA I might add) and a glazed donut. Holy crap did the two go really well together. Highly recommended combo.
-JDZJ
Tempe, AZ
Blind tasting
When I was in undergrad I took a beer course. The final was to name the styles of 10 beers. This required knowledge of styles, not guessing the names. We were given a list of 2200 beers carried by the local beer store as possibilities.
As you are "two guys journying through beer" maybe a short list of styles (15 or so) to work off for the blind show would be helpful. Say you name 15 styles (omiting the silly ones like double IPA) and have The Boss go to the bottle shop and buy 6 beer styles. Then you can guess styles and speak to the merits of each style while limiting field of what can be chosen. Answer the question "What makes the style stand out in a blind tasing."
sacrilege
Good show...except for Jeff's shocking admission that he wouldn't have been in the mood for Pliny the Elder. I don't think there's ever been a day where I wouldn't be in the mood for some Pliny.
better descriptors
You always say the your first goal is to entertain then hopefully educate. I think you do a huge disservice when you use ridiculous terms like cat pee or urinal to describe beer.
Jeff is this what you learned when studying for the BJCP? Wow.
C-mon guys – just imagine you have a new listener who is a newbie – or someone is trying to turn someone on to your show and craft beer. – I don’t think they will want to try certain beers you describe.
These terms are stupid and not helpful to the cause of educating people about craft beer at all. I’m sure Jeff can use his BJCB knowledge to use proper descriptors that fit the flavors of the beers you are trying.
Joe
Rochester NY
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Ye shall know the Bastard, And the Bastard shall set you free
Or Maybe...
Or maybe they'll attract new listeners with some weird-ass fetishes.
I'm definitely no expert on the art of tasting beer, but from what I've read, there seems to be lots of fairly common terms used by professionals to describe beer that aren't that good sounding (ie cat pee etc.), however I see your point. Many people aren't open-minded enough about beer to begin with and if they hear terms like that they may run away. Sometimes you gotta call it like you see (taste) it though.
-JDZJ
Tempe, AZ
It is what it is.
Malarky
Pah, these are great descriptors. Who doesn't know what cat pee and a urinal smells like? It is the fastest way to convey the sensation to a broad audience. Heck cat pee is even a great descriptor of sauvignon blanc so this description helps to entice interested wine geeks that are broadening thier horizons.
If anything Jeff and Greg need to do a better job describing the chemical scents such as esters to the newbies out there.
Pah - Malarky?
Ok I'm on board then. Next time I judge a competition i'm going to use Horse poop and cat urine and pissy and athletes feet and ass.
How's that sound
should go over well - No man uses the word pee anyway. Girls pee men piss - Man law number 2
Ye shall know the Bastard, And the Bastard shall set you free
Ah, ok...
So you've had Cave Creek Chili Beer then?
-JDZJ
Tempe, AZ
my name has 69 in it LOL ROFL
If a beer smells like horse poop say horse poop. If a beer smells like ass then by all means say so, I'm sorry you seem to love crappy beer. If you your just trying to be a contrarian douche bag leave it to Greg.
Wow
That seemed only somewhat uncalled for... and personal.
The year I was born 1969 -
Your exactly the kind of unknowing unsophisticated loser that ruins a good thing. go on have your cat piss.
Crappy beer? - wow - but I could elaborate better than to call it crappy.
Ye shall know the Bastard, And the Bastard shall set you free
All I mean to say is that if
All I mean to say is that if you find yourself using descriptors like "Horse poop and cat urine and pissy and athletes feet and ass" all that often then perhaps you need make better beer choices.
Sorry for the year/name thing; I made a poor assumption based on your diction and puerile man law quotes. I didn't intend to start an inflammatory exchange; I was just advocating for a vast array of open-minded vivid illustrations for beer but you'd rather stay in the realm of traditional label descriptions.
sarcastic
Horse poop and cat urine and pissy and athletes feet and ass" all that often then perhaps you need make better beer choices.
My post saying I would use these was sarcastic. I'm not for these silly descriptors.
Ye shall know the Bastard, And the Bastard shall set you free
Cat Pee = I Know Exactly What You Mean
Say what you mean and mean what you say. If cat pee is the best description then go with it. Why BS around and describe something with a "proper" adjective when cat pee lets people know exactly what the beer smelled like? Anything else would be pompous and pedantic. Two things beer is not!
urinal smell
It depends on the urinal, are you talking about the smell of urine or the smell of those huge delicious candies that are sometimes in the urinal?
I don't think "cat pee" or "urinal" are bad descriptors. You could say "catty" instead of "cat pee" to avoid offending those with delicate sensibilities, but then catty is sometimes used to describe the skunky aroma because not everyone is fortunate enough to know what a skunk smells like.
Instead of "horse poop" I would use (and have used) the descriptor "fecal" when judging. Sometimes that's just what the beer smells like.
well
He was beer drinker of the year after all. /epic win tschmidlin
PS-I still say ammonia and uric acid make for good descriptors, but they're all good to me.
-JDZJ
Tempe, AZ