CBR 116: 3rd Anniversary

We celebrate our 3rd anniversary with an eclectic collection of beers from around the world.

Beer:

Rankings:

  • Greg - 1. 1809 2. Brooklyner-Schneider 3. Schneider-Brooklyner 4. Berliner Style Weisse 5. 3 Monts
  • Jeff - 1. Schneider-Brooklyner 2. Brooklyner-Schneider 3. 1809 4. Berliner Style Weisse 5. 3 Monts

Comments

3 Monts

You probably would have enjoyed 3 Monts more if you drank if from the correct glassware as we did on a recent trip from Marseille to Barcelona.

-Aaron
Austin, TX

Congrats

Congratulations on your third year. I hope you are able to keep them coming in the future.

--
Brian T Glenn
http://www.pantsville.com/

Great show

1) Great show, best drunken post show ever. Greg was clearly flagged.
B) Congrats on beginning the 4th of many years
iii) Pre-show: College age kids are awful at written english
d) Both of you are terrible evolutionary biologists. It's not your fault; you're just science enthusiasts. I guess my point is that Jeff always prefaces his musings with some sort of warning that he is not a trained professional and Greg always states his almost correct ideas as fact. Anyway, if you ever need help with evolutionary biology I'll volunteer my services; I'm no Carl Woese but I'm a predoc in molecular biology that took his class.
?) A beer report switch would be great, however you guys could only put out a show every 3 months.
!) Can we get some new bumper music? Listening to the savor interviews back to back with the awful emo pokemon song almost drove me over the edge.

Best,
Michael

I do want new music, hope

I do want new music, hope that we can get a listener to compose some. If only mikey mason was on our show. we'd have all kinds funny intro music. Thanks, Thanks, Thanks!

Yeah, a custom CBR theme

Yeah, a custom CBR theme would be great! I hope they could work "contrarian blowhard" into the lyrics somehow.

I do have to correct myself

I do have to correct myself on the evolutionary biology points because I've been told by several people that I'm quite wrong there. So whoops.

I am, however, correct with regards to the "RTGs" on the Mars Rover. Ok, they're technically not RTGs, they're RHUs, (Radioisotope Heater Units instead of Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators) but they work on the same principle and like I said they are being used for heat, not power.

So I got one right. That's enough when you're flagged, right?

New Podcast Titles - Formerly Pre & Post Show

"The Contrarian Blowhard - Under the Influence"
"Lost on Beer"
"Mostly Correct Science"
"Untrained Experts"
"Eloquent Novices"
"I am NOT a Sourhead, but he is"

Thanks Guys I had some good chuckles on my drive this morning.
I had to google RTG when I got in. there is a decent wikipedia listing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator
But how about a link to "The Picture"

Mostly Correct Science is my

Mostly Correct Science is my favorite.

Agreed

Agreed, though I am partial to "Untrained Experts" too.

-JDZJ
Tempe, AZ

Couple things

Hey guys, glad to have a new show, but I had a couple comments. Before I get into that, I wanted to say that I enjoyed this show a lot more than the Missouri show (no one even left comments, which I'm not sure what that indicates beyond a lack of conversation about it). It seems like you guys were much less rushed, enjoyed what you were doing more, and were able to have more creative and entertaining banter, which translated into a much better show for me this time.

1. Jeff talks about how Brett actually occurs in wood, which I may be misinterpreting what he said, but it is not true based upon what I have read. All Brettanomyces occurs naturally in nature and travels on the wind, the same as Saccharomyces. Very often, it is found in orchards. The reason why Belgium was able to make such tasty sours for so long with spontaneous fermentation used to be because of all of the surrounding Cherry orchards, however now many of those have been taken down. Brett loves to reside in wood, however. It has the unique property of possessing enzymes that are able to break down the wood sugars, which allows them to stay in the barrels. These enzymes along with the many others they possess are why they are able to break down so many different difficult sugars. I've been reading (and have taken most of this information that I've simplified out of) the classic beer styles Belgian Beer book, Farmhouse Ales, Wild Brews (how I know about the Cherry orchards), and Brew Like a Monk. They're worth checking out and all of them have some very helpful information on Brettanomyces and other souring cultures.

2. Whoever said college kids are awful at English is making an enormous generalization that is not true for everyone.

3. Woodruff syrup has really odd tastes. If you want to read more about some tasting notes of a great homebrewer that is semi-famous for his sour concoctions, check out the Mad Fermentationist at http://madfermentationist.blogspot.com/2008/05/berliner-weisse-1st-tasting.html

4. You guys are butchering Weihenstephan. Vie - Hen - Shteph - on. It means "crying Stephan" if I'm not mistaken, and it is allegedly the oldest still-operating brewery in the world, started in 1056 or something like that. They make some awesome beers.

5. You guys touched on being disappointed with the traffic that has been coming in for Savor. Personally, I didn't really enjoy the recordings. I am not sure why; if I knew I would let you guys know. The comment on the intro and outro having to be listened to over and over was rather annoying, I agree. I listened to one of the salons and just wasn't entertained, so I didn't listen to any more. Perhaps it is because it is one of those things that works better in person, but it was just kind of boring for me. Maybe I'm the only one that experienced this, but if others have too, then perhaps the numbers you are seeing downloading these are higher than they appear. I enjoyed the interviews with the brewers that I listened to (once again, 4 Peaks represent), however I did not listen to all of them. I e-mailed Jeff some interesting information about the canning trend in America with Craft brews (of which, 4 Peaks is about to join) as well as a link to some local companies that recognized your website for your work on the Savor stuff. I don't know if perhaps that e-mail didn't arrive until after you recorded the show, but you are getting some coverage. Whether or not the coverage translates into listeners is a whole other story, though. Still waiting for the Natalie Cilurzo interview ;-).

Much more entertaining and great show guys, keep it coming!

Also, major congratulations for 3 years of Craft Brew Radio! We've laughed, we've cried, we've been drunk, we've been informed, entertained, and we got served.

What was with the *bleep* at the end??? The AHA censoring you now?

Props for asking us "Was it good for you?" at the end of the post-show. We have indeed been having sweet podcast sex with you for three years, and it was good for us. I'm enjoying my post-coital cigarette as we speak. I'm just kidding, but that was really funny.

Howie Mandel should be shot.

-JDZJ
Tempe, AZ

Weihenstephan

Agree on the pronunciation, but it means "Holy Stephen" doesn't it?

As for the Savor content, I really enjoyed it - except for the dips one, which was a bit shambolic. Great recordings and lots of good information though. I just didn't have anything to say besides "yeah, awesome", which seemed unnecessary. :)

That was what I had thought

That was what I had thought that it was, but I had a friend of mine that lived in Germany for 12 years correct me that it was "Crying Stephan" so I don't know. The online translator I plugged it into said it meant dedicated Stephan (which would lead me to believe that it is closer to holy). Though, Heilig or Heilige mean holy from what I remember. Any native speakers are welcome to jump in and reveal the correct one.

-JDZJ
Tempe, AZ

#2

2. Whoever said college kids are awful at English is making an enormous generalization that is not true for everyone.

Unfortunately for the all of us I teach some of the future MDs and RNs of America. Most do well with spoken English but fall apart when it comes to the written word. I fear that high schools encourage wordiness with minimum page limits instead of complete succinct thoughts. America's high school students are also taught to throw in commas whenever they need take "a breath" in conversation, creating comma splices.

Also, I think I came across a bit harsh regarding the bumper music. The intro is fun and peppy and has conditioned me to start salivating for beer. The outro is fine as long as it is your short version, the one about creative commons licensing and no singing.

Best,
Michael

Michael- I wasn't trying to

Michael-

I wasn't trying to say that it isn't generally true (it is). I just felt compelled to speak up on behalf of those of us who are exceptions to the rule. Let's see: me, my fiancee, one or two friends. Yeah, that's about it. I am a graduating Economist and am continually appalled at the quality of writing (among hundreds of other things) that our schools deem sufficient. Why do MDs and RNs need to be able to write succinct and well-written thoughts? Just kidding : )

Cheers mate,

-JDZJ
Tempe, AZ
Thank God I had a grammar Nazi for a mother.

The 4 Russian Rivers Problem

I agree with Jeff in that it would be a shame to pour out any of those beers. How about another show with a guest to help you drink them?

I've liked the guest shows in the past and it's been a while since you've had one.

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